Restless Feelings in this Online World

Restless Feelings in this Online WorldRecently, Margie Clayman posted this on her Facebook wall:

“I find myself struggling once again with my relationship with social media. I love social media and am grateful for it – Social Media, like in the movie Avatar, gave me a chance to go out and meet people without having to worry about being judged by my external self. Social Media introduced me to many of you and helped me keep in touch with the rest of you. I could never shrug that off.

But I find myself struggling with what it’s all about. I could exchange 20 comments with a person in a day and have no idea how their day was. I have talked to a person nearly every day for a year and had no idea they were emotionally distraught, going through a separation, and unemployed.

Is it important for us to post stuff here so that people can “like” or comment and feel like they’ve done their engaging with us for the day? To me, it doesn’t seem like the best way to spend our time. I would rather talk to you once a week but make it a real conversation. I care about people. I want to know how you’re doing. I want to know what is good and what is tough about where you are right now. I want to know what you’re hoping to accomplish and how I can help. These things do not fit into tweets or facebook comments.

I enjoy sharing stuff and seeing your reactions and I enjoy reacting to what you post, but it is starting to seem like a make-believe world. As more and more friends, I discover, are going through difficult times, I realize my ability to be a good friend dissipates as I spend more time on the surface with people. I am not really sure how to address this restlessness I feel with the online world.

Is anyone else on this wavelength?”

There were 127 replies to this question.

My response was succinct.

“To answer your question Margie: Yes.”

It’s a strange world, this online place.

I watch with interest some of the banter that goes on. The very clever surface-stuff that bounces like a tennis ball, pinging from one person to the other. Fun, frivolous and entertaining.

I also see that when someone shares something of deeper meaning, the circle draws tighter. People often don’t know how to respond to anguish, pain or naked honesty online. It’s much easier to glide on the surface. Much tougher to dive deep.

And what do we really want people to know about us?

The yin and yang of “social” is a double-edged sword. How much is enough? How much is too much?

It’s like being in a room with hundreds of people but feeling quite alone sometimes.

It’s like wondering if everyone is on their best behaviour, wearing a mask that hides what’s really going on.

I liken it to the Amanda Marshall song, “don’t assume everything on the surface is what you see…everybody’s got a story that could break your heart.”

We connect, but that doesn’t mean we’re connected.

True connection happens when we speak, in person, online or off. Whether that be in a hangout, on Skype, on the phone or at the corner coffee shop, that’s when, in Marshall’s words, we “lift the veil and let your true self breathe.”

When we comment online with words like “look on the bright side” or “things will get better” when someone bares their soul, it’s like we make them evaporate and disappear. Trite words cannot possibly help. They diminish the other’s place of pain. Maybe that’s why we’re reluctant to bare all online.

I think that when we feel restless online, it’s a signal that we need to connect in person. It’s the difference between a cocktail party and a pyjama party.

At the cocktail party we’re all dolled up, putting best face forward and skimming the surface in our conversations and contacts. We might encounter someone who’s sharing a bit deeper, but we often excuse ourselves and move on, uncomfortable in that setting to do more than offer cursory words of support.

But at the PJ party, we let our hair down, talk turkey, share, laugh, cry  let our true self breathe.

It’s not either-or: online or off.

It’s recognizing that we can’t really “know” someone until we’ve spent some face time with them. After all, friendship is a very sacred thing that runs like deep water. Things might look calm on the surface, but deep below there exists another layer that no surface banter can see. In the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson: “A friend is a person with whom I may be sincere. Before him I may think aloud.”

Are you restless?

 

  • http://www.flybluekite.com Laura Click

    Wow. Great posts and excellent questions from Miss Margie too.

    The benefit of social media is that it opens so many doors and widens our communities so much. But, certainly the downside is that our relationships often become thinner because we can only handle so much. I definitely feel the pull between the two. I think we all do. We need to have deep, in-person relationships. But, spending time online isn’t altogether bad. Like many things, it’s about creating balance. Definitely something to chew on this morning!

    • http://www.margieclayman.com Marjorie Clayman

      It is a conundrum, isn’t it? Particularly worrisome is that I think some people expect all of their online connections to offer that same kind of offline friendship, and I really believe that until you hear someone’s voice and watch their facial expressions, it’s hard to get there. Maybe I’m just old-fashioned though :)

      • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

        It that’s old-fashioned @MargieClayman:disqus , then I’m with you:)

      • http://www.flybluekite.com Laura Click

        I think we could all do well to spend more time with people face-to-face!

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      I agree @lauraclick:disqus . Some days it feels like the world is my oyster, and other days, like sand slipping through my fingers. There’s no question that I’ve benefitted greatly from the people I’ve met, ideas I’ve been exposed to and connections I’ve made. But there’s a line from a Northern Pikes song that comes to mind when I consider…is what we see in someone online the same as what we see in person? The line: “she ain’t pretty she just looks that way.” Cheers! Kaarina

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  • http://cirquedumot.com/new-readers/ Susan Silver

    I think the issue with not expressing negative online could be wrapped up with the same stigma that prevents people from disclosing in real life. It is difficult in any medium for people to grasp and understand. I talked with an online friend recently over the phone explaining how I had went through a phase of depression before I started blogging. The minute the D word came out they became very quiet. Then they changed the subject. You can imagine that I am more reluctant now to share that story even though it has a positive ending.

    As Laura said it is about balance.From the introvert perspective, it is enough to take time off and get a cup of coffee.At some point you have to accept you cannot truly be friends with a 1,000 people.

    • http://www.margieclayman.com Marjorie Clayman

      Sorry your friend let you down, but isn’t that interesting – in the online world we don’t get a comment or a “thumbs up” and we can just think, “well, maybe they didn’t see it.” We have no real measure for when we might be making people uncomfortable. Even though that’s really their problem, it’s still important to know stuff like that.

      • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

        I just shared my thoughts with Susan about safe harbours and quick ports of call in the online world. Much more difficult to discern online. Cheers! Kaarina

        • http://cirquedumot.com/new-readers/ Susan Silver

          @MargieClayman:disqus @twitter-257025239:disqus I think I have a very strange opinion when it comes to social media. For me it was almost therapeutic and I can see that with the guidance of a therapist that it could be beneficial. I wonder why we never discuss media as a healing tool, but focus on its potential for harm.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      It’s disappointing when friends let us down @susan_silver:disqus . I had a recent experience online that was quite hurtful, not by something someone said, but by conspicuous omission. Thankfully I had another good online friend who was able to provide perspective, and actually turned things around. I believe we all need safe havens and safe harbours…people that we trust with our closest thoughts. In other cases, we need to know when it’s a quick port of call, not a safe harbour. Not as easy to do online as it is in real life. I’ll share a cup of coffee with you anytime:) Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/bdorman264 Bill Dorman

    Here’s my stock answer; I view social just like a networking event. I will have deeper relationships with some in the room and these relationships will ebb and flow. I’m not restless in real life and I’m not restless online anymore either.

    I got real antsy over some things in the early days, but most of this is out of my control and in the big scheme of things doesn’t mean Jack squat; therefore, I quit paying attention to it.

    I thought of you last week and thought maybe you had a chopped liver moment, but hopefully not.

    I know there are people really hurting out there; especially our dear friend Lori. I will be there as much as I can be; however, that doesn’t mean online social should be discounted just because I can’t see her face to face to share her grief.

    I can tell you when I met Dino, I did get somewhat amped up, and it made me excited to still be playing in the sandbox.

    I’m as social as I need to be right now; we’ll just have to see how it evolves.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Do I know Jack Squat? Just kidding @twitter-34985693:disqus . You’ve got your act together (was going to use another word, but the polite Canadian in my edited it out), and yes…I did have a chopped liver moment last week. But a good online friend provided perspective, and jack squatted me out of it.

      I do believe that those of us who’ve benefitted from Skyping or google hang-out-ing have the advantage of having “seen” each other…facial expressions, nuances, reading between the lines, etc. That doesn’t mean that online isn’t “real”…but sometimes it isn’t as “real” as we think.

      I’ll bring the pail and shovel to that sandbox any day. Cheers! Snowshoes

  • http://twitter.com/Soulati Jayme Soulati

    I won’t answer the “are you restless” question because the only thing I’m restless about is my lack of knowledge to grow to the next level. Perhaps that’s how I will answer that question — what is your ultimate goal on this journey?

    If you’re restless or uncomfortable today, that means you’ve accomplished phase 1 or 2; time to grow to next level and put the discomfort of learning something new to work; master the next phase — the ebook, the videos, the G+ hangouts, the inperson visuals you crave.

    Make the next iteration of your journey People from A to Z! Hmm, I kinda like that! You could do short videos or podcasts with people who’s first names begin with J, like moi. That way you will be the best connected person on the sphere and you can become a connector.

    Darn it; that’s not what I wanted to say at all…but it’ll do.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      It’ll more than do @twitter-22830278:disqus :) I was over at your “house” a few moments ago, but simply couldn’t muster the words to comment effectively. I find that my mind’s racing, and yes…people from A to Z…what a novel idea. It’s definitely growth time for many of us. We’ve learned what we’ve learned, put it to good use, but like the sand granule in the oyster, we’re itching to become pearls. Perhaps I’ll string a necklace of pearls of wisdom, gleaned from all the wonderful people I’ve come to know. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://joshuawilner.com/ Josh

    I was born restless and with a double dose of wanderlust. I am always in motion, even when I appear to be stationary but that is me and I am comfortable with it.

    Expectations are what I think of. What do I expect from those I encounter online and what do I get.

    My perception and experience isn’t much different from the “real world.” I like some people, dislike some and am ambivalent about others.

    Your comment about how people deal with pain and anguish reminds me of some real life experiences. I have been to around 30 funerals, could be a bit more or less.

    Some of them have been for friends. I have seen the moms and dads of friends at their worst moments living a nightmare.

    The reason I mention this isn’t because I am comfortable seeing people in pain, but because I have learned how to go say “I am sorry” to anyone. I don’t mean for that to sound like magic words that remove the pain, but it is acknowledges that something is going on.

    I learned how to do it because I have been around things. Really, I wish I hadn’t learned because it would mean that some very dear people would be around. The point is that I think some people rarely see these things and don’t know what to do so they shut down.

    And on a separate but related tack, I get really irritated with some of the arrogant liars that crop up in the online world. They haven’t figured out yet they aren’t as clever as they think they are.

    Some of the inconsistencies are glaring, but that is all I have to say about that now.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      It’s unfortunate the circumstances that have brought you to a place to be able to acknowledge others’ pain, but it’s a gift to be able to empathize . And I agree…people often aren’t sure of how to react to others’ pain or challenge, and they either say something that is of little help, or say nothing at all. Sometimes our words can seem so trite, and at others, our avoidance of tough situations can make others think we don’t care. Stay restless and full of wanderlust Josh. (and yes, yet again, I cannot get your name to link:( Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/CrossBetsy Betsy Cross

    I was sitting in class last Thursday, hitting a new friend in the arm, laughing, talking and warning her that that’s what she gets if she’s next to me! I need to touch, look into eyes, hear a voice, discern a mood. I share way too much too soon ’cause I’ve learned life is unpredictable.
    Yes. I’m restless with the online world. I want to reach through the screen and pull you into my living room…just for a minute. Then you can go.
    When I was away for a couple of weeks and then logged back on I was surprised at how quiet a blog post, Facebook status, or email was.
    It was creepy!

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Although the online world introduces to many, many of whom can become true, real friends, I agree @twitter-562128902:disqus : there’s nothing finer than also being able to connect in real life. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://barrettrossie.com/ Barrett Rossie

    Fantastic, Kaarina. And Margie.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Thanks @barrett_rossie:disqus :) Cheers! Kaarina

  • geofflivingston

    I certainly don’t share everything online and live in a walled garden. It’s because I don’t trust most people, and frankly, after seven years of working out on the interwebs intensely, I think I have good reason for that. People will always let you down, principles never will. I know that’s an odd take on this, but it is my experience.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      I think many of us can benefit from your experience and wisdom on this @geofflivingston:disqus . I have a mantra: “I trust until given reason to mistrust”, and a few times lately, that’s come to bite me in the behind. But I’ll keep to that, and keep to my principles, even knowing that people will disappoint and sometimes let you down. I will continue to, in your words, focus, focus, focus. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/profkrg Kenna Griffin

    I think it can work the other way too. I have some deep relationships that I’ve developed online. Meeting those people is just the “icing on the cake.” However, I agree that this is the exception, not the rule.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Nice to see you here @twitter-27305797:disqus , and I agree. I’ve met some wonderful people online, and wouldn’t change that. But the restlessness I feel bubbles up when reality does not meet expectation…when you think you “know” someone, and are hurt or disappointed by them. I guess that’s one reason that acceptance, rather than expectation, works well. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://www.dadblunders.com/ dadblunders

    Kaarina,

    I have posted about this a few times on my own blog. Don’t get me wrong I love the online community and I know we can built relationships through it. I am a older stay-at-home dad by choice. Being a little older, former social worker and a parent gives me a unique perspective on the online world.

    Being older (42 and my son is 3) I recall growing up in a time where I had to locate my friends if I wanted to do something. We didn’t have text messages, social media or cell phones. We would call (the horrors a landline) our friends and if they weren’t home you “might” leave a message on the answering machine or you would go to their house to see if they were home. Outdoors was the “social media” and my parents phrase was go outside to play!

    The social worker in me has watched social media used for exploitation in ways I won’t go into great detail. I will state that I used to be a child abuse investigator as a social worker. The job has made sure I will know what my son is doing online at all times. Many parents have no clue what there children are doing or how they are spending their time.

    Now that I am a parent I try to let my son grow up but give him some of the values I had growing up. He plays outside in the yard and we go to the park. Our lives do involve the computer but I draw the line at letting him become consumed by it.

    I have blogged about social media and technology in general because i wonder what the actual cost is because of advancements. It takes a village to raise a child and I think we are more disconnected today than ever. I turned to blogging to promote fatherhood, parenting and the good things social media can do. I try to help others based on my life story and experiences and then I turn them into blog posts full of humor (sometimes completely serious). We just have to always remember there is a real world with real faces waiting for us.

    Aaron

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      What a wonderful comment @stayathomedadblunders:disqus , full of wisdom. Your son has one awesome father:) Thanks for dropping by and chiming in. I look forward to checking out your blog.

      I agree: I do believe we’re in contact, but not necessarily connected online. I know that when I started this blog eighteen months ago, it was for the purpose of writing, of sharing, of engaging and of helping. It fills me with pleasure to do so, but I also realize that sometimes I’m spending far too much time at the keyboard, and not enough in the playground of life. The “real world with real faces waiting for us” should never take a backseat.

      Hope to see you here again: the welcome mat is always out. Cheers! Kaarina

  • there’s more to it

    A small side point, but many people can’t “afford” to open up online the way they really want to – what if a prospective employer drags it up or puts up flags in a profile mined by an HR database. Pretty crappy sometimes how you have to position your online self and regulate in a way that is unnatural in real social settings.It’s really disappointing sometimes how you have to rethink and disguise some of your interactions.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Thanks for dropping in and sharing your thoughts @aee96ed57b092bfbf1945d7cd6ddb0ed:disqus . I can see your point, and I don’t necessarily mean that we should be complete open books online, just as we are not complete open books in real life. It’s just more difficult to discern things online, when you can’t hear a person’s tone of voice, read inflection and body language and “read between the lines”. We each need to come to a place of comfort with what we share, and with whom. Thanks for your perspective. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/rdopping Ralph Dopping

    Interesting question. So, here’s my dilemma. I don’t call someone a real friend unless I connect in some way to them. I have connected to some people on-line that I know I can call a friend and we have not met. Is that instinct or am I being naive? I agree with you and Margie, how can you know what people are going through without actually spending time with them but you can’t choose everyone especially on-line. Duh, I know. So, with that I plodded along and be myself. That is all I can do and I hope that at least some people will see what I have to offer as valuable. Those are the folks that I hope to establish a deeper connection with over time.

    Great post. You always make me think at a deeper level. :-)

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Thanks @twitter-229922134:disqus : I like to make you think “at a deeper level” :) )) I say that what you see is what you get. I’m the same “me” online as off. I’ve made many wonderful friends online, but some of those have also not been who I thought they were, if that makes sense. Like I said to @lauraclick:disqus it puts me in mind of the Northern Pikes line in a song, “she ain’t pretty she just looks that way”. Looks online, and IRL, can be deceiving: it’s just easier to discern IRL. Cheers! Kaarina

      • http://twitter.com/rdopping Ralph Dopping

        Yep, I get that. I have only met a handful of people I know on-line in real life and fortunately for me only one was way off base. I have to ask your opinion on this; first impressions aside, how long does it take to really get to know someone? For me it takes a while and on-line it takes much longer because we don’t have those non-verbal cues to help us along.

        Anyway, have a great day/week/month and thanks for the inspiring post.

        • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

          Good question @twitter-229922134:disqus . How long DOES it take to really get to know someone? It’s a pretty incremental process, I believe. Sometimes, you just get that gut feeling and you click with someone, and the speed at which you share, the frequency of contact and the banter you engage in expedites the process. At other times, it’s a snail’s pace, as little bits get shared over time. In the final analysis, do we really ever “know” someone, especially if we’ve only met and engaged online? I would say I’ve met lots of wonderful people online, engaged with them, bantered with them, exchanged ideas…but I only know that which they’ve chosen to show and share. Like a lot of things in life for me, I trust my gut. It doesn’t usually steer me wrong. (hmmmm…I wonder who that way-off-base person is….hopefully not me, haha!) Cheers! Kaarina

  • Adam

    You know, it’s funny because I thought of our discussion about this when I was writing my post about smiling on the phone. When so much of our communication is proven to be nonverbal or not the words we speak (facial cues, tone of voice), then SM is immediately lacking in some very important things we all expect from human interaction.

    I view this pretty much the way @twitter-34985693:disqus does. SM is the cocktail party, the friendships that have depth develop from it, not in it.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      I love that line @196e63000c50f5697208930d08b9c297:disqus . “the friendships that have depth develop from it, not in it.” I’m going to be quoting you on that:) Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/RebeccaAmyTodd Rebecca Amy Todd

    Wow Kaarina. This is a very special and lovely post. I struggle with a lot of the same issues. On the good side, social media has helped me to connect with so many people who add value to my life- like you! I also rely more on twitter when I am on long sales trips- I get so desperate for non-sales conversation. What you say is very true- I turn to social media more when what I truly crave is connection, interaction, with someone who “gets” me. I cut myself off from the social sometimes, just to remember what living in the moment is like.

    Thanks again- I am saving and sharing this post. And adding @MargieClayman:disqus on FB, if she’ll have me…

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      I’m sure she will @twitter-257989881:disqus :) “Social” has introduced me to many wonderful people (yes, you!), but there are also times when it can be quite alienating. Like when you’re “conversing” with someone online but you can tell by their words that their mind (and possibly their activity) is somewhere else…like they’re checking emails, tweeting or putting you on hold for the next better thing. Your words brought to mind one of my favourite quotes by Lance Secretan: “Live the moment nobly, passionately and with love.” Something to live by:) Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://twitter.com/christinelarade Christine Larade

    I am not sure about being restless. One of the people whom I engage with most often on Twitter is someone I have only met with once in ‘real life’. Yet, I would consider him a true friend.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Oh, I do believe you can have true friends online @twitter-105141601:disqus . Sometimes you just get a sense that what they say, and how the present themselves is ‘real”. But sometimes, as @aee96ed57b092bfbf1945d7cd6ddb0ed:disqus mentioned, people will disguise themselves online, for various reasons. The restlessness for me comes from knowing that, until we meet in person, I will see only what someone chooses for me to see, not necessarily what I can see and discern with my own eyes in person. Like I said, that’s neither good or bad, and it’s not either-or…online or off. It’s just that online we cannot grasp the subtle nuances, watch someone’s response to see if they actually understand what we’re saying and read tone and inflection. Thanks for stopping by and commenting Christine: I appreciate it! Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://markharai.com Mark Harai

    Hi Kaarina,

    The depth of any relationship, online, or off, is a direct result of heart to heart communication.

    If you stay on the surface, there also will be your depth of your relationships.

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with hanging out with cool peeps who inspire and motivate you.

    Just accept them for what they are.

    The only way to go deeper in relationship with people is if you willingly take it there.

    There’s plenty of opportuntity to expand your relationships with folks too, if you desire to go there.

    Relationships are what you make them and meaningful doesn’t happen by accident.

    Thoughtful post here, miss : )

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Thanks @markharai:disqus : as always, your wisdom, words and “heart to heart” approach speaks volumes. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I would add the old saw “perception is reality”. People will garner from us that which we choose to show them, and I guess that’s why online can be more difficult than in person. When you’re face to face IRL, you get a lot more “clues”, but you are right: relationships are what you make them. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://www.lisatener.com/ Lisa Tener

    Kaarina,
    Great points. It’s important not to confuse e-friendship with a deeper friendship, which takes place in person and–perhaps to a lesser extent–can include phone conversations. If we try to replace that with social media, we’re in trouble. Social media seems like a great way to connect with many people we would not otherwise meet, share ideas and discourse, make an often-modest difference in eachother’s lives and businesses. And we care about each other, but we don’t know each other deeply.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      Totally spot on @lisatener:disqus . We can only “know each other deeply” when we’ve chosen to share at that deep level, and I expect that would be pretty tough to do solely online. Online, we can also “think” we know someone, only to find out that what’s been shared by the other does not paint a full picture. I liken it to a jigsaw puzzle. Online, we might see pieces, but not the finished picture. Cheers! Kaarina

  • http://www.wonderoftech.com Carolyn Nicander Mohr

    Hi Kaarina, I’m not restless, but I do wish we could all get together in one place somewhere. The blogosphere can be a very warm and supportive place. I am constantly amazed at how we can help each other and do. Yet, I keep thinking how great it would be to meet IRL.

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      I’m glad we just had a chance to meet IRLonline:) But how cool would it be to all get together in one place! Major party! Cheers! Kaarina (now that’s a lotta !’s:)

  • http://twitter.com/samanthaluy Samantha Bangayan

    Funny, I was just thinking about how you posted those shoulder exercises on my wall and how much you truly care about others. ‘You cared enough about lil ol’ me?’ I thought. And that meant a lot to me. You are someone I look up to when connecting with others. That restlessness is our own reminder to make the effort to make things more real, I think. Because we naturally get carried away with the “busy-ness” of life, although your follow-up post on being busy v. productive is a relevant one! =)

    • http://twitter.com/KDillabough Kaarina Dillabough

      What a lovely thing to say @twitter-250474377:disqus . Since I have a very simple Mission in life…a simple 3 words, To Spread Joy, I’m delighted when I’m able to do just that, each and every day. And yes…I care about lil ol’ you:) Cheers! Kaarina

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